Podcast: The Counter Narrative Podcast

January 3, 2025

In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, Charles Williams engages in a deep conversation with Jennifer Abrams about the significance of having hard conversations in educational settings. They explore the challenges of professional development, the necessity of adult development in schools, and the importance of emotional hygiene during professional learning. Jennifer shares her insights on how to navigate time constraints in PD sessions and emphasizes the need for intentionality in designing effective professional development experiences. The discussion also highlights the hunger for connection and meaningful learning among educators, and the resources available to support their growth.

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The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education is a podcast dedicated to changing the way we talk and think about education. We all know that the field isn’t perfect but there is plenty of awesome work happening everyday. Listen in as the host profile educators who are positively impacting their staff, students, and communities.

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Jennifer Abrams

About Jennifer Abrams

Jennifer has been recognized as one of "21 Women All K-12 Educators Need to Know" by Education Week's 'Finding Common Ground' blog. She considers herself a "voice coach," helping others learn how to best use their voices – be it collaborating on a team, facilitating a group, coaching a colleague, supervising an employee and being an all around better human being in all types of interactions.

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    Praise for Jennifer

    “Jennifer is one of the most actively engaged thought partners we have ever had the pleasure to work with: she asked all the right questions before and during the visit to tailor her work to our school context. During her three days on site, she skillfully guided our middle and senior leadership through structures for having hard conversations with an engaging presence that made time fly. We have already been well-equipped to use Jennifer’s practical strategies until she returns in the spring to continue the work.”

    Dr. David Mannell, Director of Curriculum and Professional Development
    Seoul International School