Podcast: The School Leadership Show

August 14, 2025

Feeling overwhelmed by the complexities of leadership today? Tune in to learn how building your self-regulation can help you navigate dysregulated times and have more effective conversations. In this episode, my co-host Jenn David-Lang and I had the pleasure of speaking with the amazing Jennifer Abrams, whom I see as a guru of interpersonal relations in education. Jennifer, a full-time international consultant and author of impactful books like Having Hard Conversations and Stretching Your Learning Edge: Growing (up) at Work, joined us to explore the critical topic of self-regulation in dysregulated times.

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The School Leadership Show: Learn everything you need to know to thrive in school administration. The only podcast dedicated to helping practicing and aspiring school leaders, The School Leadership Show brings together the greatest minds from inside and outside of education to deliver you the insights and tools you need to succeed in school leadership.

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Jennifer Abrams

About Jennifer Abrams

Jennifer has been recognized as one of "21 Women All K-12 Educators Need to Know" by Education Week's 'Finding Common Ground' blog. She considers herself a "voice coach," helping others learn how to best use their voices – be it collaborating on a team, facilitating a group, coaching a colleague, supervising an employee and being an all around better human being in all types of interactions.

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    Praise for Jennifer

    “I can’t imagine how much positive impact Jennifer has had in countless schools over many years. I still lean heavily on the learning she bestowed so graciously at our school in Shanghai all those years ago. Stretching the edges and providing bombproof strategies to help us all overcome the most common and difficult challenges…what a legacy!”

    Mike Spencer, Founding Headmaster of Malvern College, Tokyo