Podcast: [In]Distinct Chatter

August 30, 2021

Jennifer speaks with Dr. Kevin Ruth about her latest book, Stretching Your Learning Edges: Growing (Up) At Work.

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[In]Distinct Chatter is hosted by Dr. Kevin Ruth. The phrase “indistinct chatter” is something that we see on television or movie subtitles, indicating that there is a conversation that lacks articulation or clarity; we cannot distinguish what is being said. By bracketing the [in], this podcast promotes intentional articulation for educational leaders on topics ranging from reflection on leadership itself to organizational design and culture, and more.

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Jennifer Abrams

About Jennifer Abrams

Jennifer has been recognized as one of "21 Women All K-12 Educators Need to Know" by Education Week's 'Finding Common Ground' blog. She considers herself a "voice coach," helping others learn how to best use their voices – be it collaborating on a team, facilitating a group, coaching a colleague, supervising an employee and being an all around better human being in all types of interactions.

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    Praise for Jennifer

    “Jennifer’s session was not just a workshop, but an invitation to look inward at how we, as adults, show up in our professional roles. She reminded us that hard conversations are not about winning or avoiding conflict, but about cultivating clarity, empathy, and courage.

    One of the most powerful takeaways was this: for dialogue to be truly effective, we must learn to communicate with precision while holding space for humanity. Hard conversations should not shut people down; they should open the door to growth-producing feedback that strengthens trust, relationships, and professional practice. My learning experience with Jennifer was a reminder that our impact as educators is amplified when we are willing to pause, reflect, and engage with one another in ways that foster both accountability and compassion.”

    Farah Darazi, PYP Program Leader
    Advanced Learning Schools, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia