Podcast: The School Leadership Show
August 14, 2025
Feeling overwhelmed by the complexities of leadership today? Tune in to learn how building your self-regulation can help you navigate dysregulated times and have more effective conversations. In this episode, my co-host Jenn David-Lang and I had the pleasure of speaking with the amazing Jennifer Abrams, whom I see as a guru of interpersonal relations in education. Jennifer, a full-time international consultant and author of impactful books like Having Hard Conversations and Stretching Your Learning Edge: Growing (up) at Work, joined us to explore the critical topic of self-regulation in dysregulated times.
About:
The School Leadership Show: Learn everything you need to know to thrive in school administration. The only podcast dedicated to helping practicing and aspiring school leaders, The School Leadership Show brings together the greatest minds from inside and outside of education to deliver you the insights and tools you need to succeed in school leadership.
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About Jennifer Abrams
Jennifer has been recognized as one of "21 Women All K-12 Educators Need to Know" by Education Week's 'Finding Common Ground' blog. She considers herself a "voice coach," helping others learn how to best use their voices – be it collaborating on a team, facilitating a group, coaching a colleague, supervising an employee and being an all around better human being in all types of interactions.
Work with Jennifer
Praise for Jennifer
“Jennifer is one of the most actively engaged thought partners we have ever had the pleasure to work with: she asked all the right questions before and during the visit to tailor her work to our school context. During her three days on site, she skillfully guided our middle and senior leadership through structures for having hard conversations with an engaging presence that made time fly. We have already been well-equipped to use Jennifer’s practical strategies until she returns in the spring to continue the work.”
